INTERVIEW WITH STEVEN WUSSOW (ORDEN OGAN)

English: This interview was born with the desire to collaborate with my friends and colleagues from "Esquirlas de Metal", who offer our interview in the Spanish version and which you can read by clicking on this link: https://esquirlasdemetal.es/2023/10/24/careo-con-s-wussow-bajista-de-orden-ogan/

 Thank the entire "Esquirlas" team for their effort, dedication and this first step to join forces together, which will bear many fruits. Also thank Evgeny Gromovoy (Adamantis drummer) for giving the go-ahead (and correcting when he has played) with the questions in English and Steven himself for his time, kindness and trust. Thanks everyone & Long live Orden Ogan, long live Heavy Metal!

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Spanish: Esta entrevista nace con el deseo de colaborar junto a mis amigos y compañeros de Esquirlas de Metal, quienes ofrecen nuestro entrevista en la versión en castellano y que puedes leer pinchando en este enlace: https://esquirlasdemetal.es/2023/10/24/careo-con-s-wussow-bajista-de-orden-ogan/

Agradecer a todo el equipo de Esquirlas su esfuerzo, dedicación y este primer paso para unir fuerzas juntos, que dará muchos frutos. Agradecer también a Evgeny Gromovoy (batería de Adamantis) por dar el visto bueno (y corregir cuando ha tocado) con las preguntas en inglés y al propio Steven por su tiempo, amabilidad y confianza. ¡Gracias a todos y viva Orden Ogan, viva el Heavy Metal!

 

 

Official photo taken by Tim Tronckoe.

   

"THERE WILL BE A NEW ORDEN OGAN ALBUM IN 2024!"

Rafa Black Phoenix: Hi guys! Thank you for your time, it’s great to be able interview you!

 

Steven: Hey you`re always welcome. Thanks for having us.

 

1) How did the summer commitments go for Orden Ogan?

 

Steven: Well, although we did not play that many shows it was a super busy summer as there was and still is A LOT going on behind the scenes. But it`s still too early to go into details. All I can say is that 2024 will be the year of the Orden ;-)

 

2) This summer we were finally able to redeem ourselves with your show at the Milagre Metaleiro in Portugal, after the coronavirus prevented us from doing so last year. In addition to enjoying a great show, we have seen a line-up of the band in exceptional condition. How has the adaptation process to the band been for Steven on bass and Patrick on guitar?

 

Steven: As with every line up change, we also had a change in the dynamics of the band on and off stage. But I guess much more important when it comes to this than adding Pat as a guitarist and a different bass player is that Seeb is not bound to the micstand and the guitar anymore.

This raises the energy level on stage to a new max. As funny as it may sound… after being in a band together in this line up for a few years now… we are still getting warmed up. We still haven`t been able to play a proper tour together. Only festivals and single shows. But we will take care of this in 2024.

 

3) And the transition from bass to guitar for Niels? And while we're at it... For Sebastian “Seeb” to put aside the guitar and concentrate only on the voice...? I would ask if he misses her, but Arch Demon Seebulon The Origin of All Evil has told me in his dreams that he doesn't... (Laughs)

 

Steven: I always say that Niels is my favourite Orden Ogan bass player …. Hahaha. A MUCH better bass player than I will ever be and what makes it even worse… he is an extraordinary good guitar player. No joke. The guitar is his initial instrument. Therefore, I think he is super happy to be able to return to the guitar.

He and Pat work perfect together. Orden Ogans own Tipton/Downing like twin guitar team.

Well Seeb still plays guitar for Orden Ogan… but only in the studio. Would be a shame if he didn`t. He is quite happy that he can now focus on singing and playing mean pranks to his bandmates on stage.

Official photo taken by Tim Tronckoe.

4) It has merit because then what no one expected arrived: the pandemic. In addition to having to postpone concerts and festivals, the release of your latest studio work Final Days was released much later, altering the initial planned deadlines... What challenges, headaches and opportunities have this nightmare called COVID-19 generated for Orden Ogan? ?

 

Steven: Ok, how much time do we have… hahaha…  Damn, I mean we ALL were stuck in this… situation. Not just us. So everyone knows how much it sucked. Those years have been, just like for everyone else, incredibly hard for each one of us individually and as a band together.

Like I said this line up is now together for almost 4 years and we haven`t played a proper tour. FINAL DAYS became kind of our lost album as we decided to release it despite not having any proper opportunity to promote it with a tour in the middle of the pandemic. We had to get it out to the people.

Everything we had planned had been torn to shreds. No tour, no bigger video production… but hey, it was the same for everyone. I don`t want to whine and look back on this mess.

We made it through, we are still here and we are more than ready for what`s to come.

 

5) Of course, and then the war in Ukraine came... How much did it affect you? I'm talking about extra costs like gasoline for example...

 

Steven: Oh yes, how could I forget about that one… hahaha

You have to find a way to deal with the circumstances. You have to be a bit more creative when it comes to putting together a touring package, travelling and when to play in which country or region.  

The next tour we have lined up is a package tour with Feuerschwanz and Angus Mc Six for example. A killer package, as we think, that is going to be super interesting for the people. So this might be our idea to deal with what`s going on at the moment: putting together a nice line up and travel as smart as possible. 

 

 

6) You have also released Final Days: Orden Ogan & Friends in 2022, with notable vocalists such as Peter “Peavy” Wagner (Rage), Stu Block (ex-Iced Earth, Annihilator), Chris Boltendahl (Grave Digger), Elina Siirala (Leaves Eyes) and a long etc. It also included a new single, December, and the orchestral version of Fields of Sorrow. How has it been received by the public?

 

Steven: Guess people liked that experiment a lot. It was never planned as a “full album” release. It is more a “hey we are still here, still rocking hard” kind of release. Just to give the fans something nice to shorten the timespan till the release of the next studio album.

It was absolute cool and weird at the same time to hear your own songs sung by someone else. This gives the songs a completely different flavour. I think ALL guest vocalists have done a killer job. No fillers! And December, well it has already been one of my personal favourites during the recordings of FINAL DAYS. So now the fans can enjoy the full package.

 

 

 

 

  

 

7) Let's go to the immediate present: what state is the band in right now? What roadmap do you have planned for the remainder of 2023 and for all of 2024? Will we have a new album for '24?

 

Steven: As I already indicated… we are pretty busy behind the scenes. The recordings of the new album are almost done but will keep us busy until the end of the year. So to make it short: YES, there will be a new ORDEN OGAN album in 2024!

 

8) It is curious to see how every good German Heavy-Speed-Power Metal band has had the legendary Andreas Marschall among the pencils of their works. In fact, he is responsible for legendary covers on albums considered masterpieces by giants such as Blind Guardian, Grave Digger or Running Wild. Except Final Days you have always counted on him. Will you do it again in the future?

 

Steven: We all grew up with Andreas Marshalls artworks. They are ALL classics and we super proud that he did some extraordinary stuff for us in the past too. It is still FAR too early to give you any details about what you are going to see on the next one, but I am absolutely sure that everyone will love it.

 

 

9) To finish… For those who don't know or are approaching you for the first time… Who is Alister Vale, your “pet”? Is your story about him united on each album or are they independent of each other?

 

Steven: Alister Vale is kind of our mascot, our “Eddie” if you want to compare it that way. Vale is always put into a new setting with every new record and he is always mastering new challenges. We are always adding new chapters to his personal story.

Therefore, Alister Vale and his story are the recurrent themes in the Orden Ogan universe. And there is so much discover if you read the lyrics properly. But that`s up to the listener ;-)

 

10) In the future you might be encouraged to write a novel about it... I would buy it...

 

Steven: Absolutely, I would buy it too.. hahahaha!

There have always been super loose talks about doing something like this and there have been comics with the albums topics in the past. So who knows… If a day had 48 hours, we would be in within a second... hahahaha But not now and not in the foreseeable future. Sorry!

 

Guys, it's been a pleasure! Thank you very much again and we are waiting for you soon in Spain and Portugal with a new and successful album, although personally, something tells me that we will see each other again soon in 2024... ;) Hugs!!

 

Steven: Hey, we have to thank you! I can already promise that we will return with our new record! So keep your eyes open and see you somewhere on the road!

 

Remember that Orden Ogan will be touring their native Germany side by side to Feuerschwanz & Angus McSix in the spring and in the summer they are currently confirmed for these festivals. Where will you see them?

 

 

Rafa Black Phoenix

INTERVIEW W MARKO DESPOT MIRANOVIĆ of "NUMENOR"

 

 

Hi everyone! Today in Black Phoenix Rising we have Marko Despot Miranović, vocalist of the Serbian band NUMENOR, who released their new and surprising work “Draconian Age” last Friday, March 5, an album composed of 10 incredible songs with a very fresh, melodic and heaviest sound.

 

First of all Marko Thank you very much for granting us this interview and my sincere congratulations on this new work from Numenor!

 

Well, I would like to thank you for your interest and nice words. It really means a lot when you learn that there are people who listen to your music for hours and that they are having their thoughts,imaginations and inspirations when they are listening to my music.  And yet Numenor's music/message is very specific.

 

 

 

1) The first question is directed above all for people who do not know you: How would you define your sound? What are your influences?

 

Influences are different but they are coming from the 90s mostly: Luca Turilli, Blind Guardian, Domine, Rhapsody, also there's Iron Maiden or Kind Diamond (one could obviously hear that). On the other hand there are some moments from Norwegian or Swedish black/death scenes from the 90s like Covenant and Arcturus.

Our style is epic metal, I like to call it sword and sorcery metal since we employ different styles in order to build something strong and unique and different from other fantasy bands. I think that we stand truly in contrast to Gloryhammer, Powerwolf or Wind Rose and such bands. I am completely unable to get into this stuff. The problem is that even Madonna sounds more dangerous than these bands if you get what I mean. I was raised first on Motorhead and Iron Maiden, then on Type o Negative and Paradise Lost so all this sounds/looks quite weird to me. Perhaps I have become too old.

 

2) “Draconian Age” as I was saying is your new and fourth studio album. I think it is your most solid album in terms of sound, composition and consolidation of the project. How has the creative process of the album been and how much has the pandemic affected-contributed to its elaboration?

 

There was more or less no effect at all. This time we tried to make more direct songs with less experiments like we have done many times before, and yes it worked at the end. I do not think that we have been more creative on this record, it's quite the opposite, we tried to be more more simple.

 

  

 

 

3) What does the chosen title "Draconian Age" refer to?

 

Nick Holmes from Paradise Lost once told that Draconian means something hard, like harsh times. On the other hand Draconian Age to me means something from an ancient time (before as we knew it) or from different world if you like. I like the idea that there are parallel dimensions and worlds. I strongly believe in that. But, yes it was inspired by Dragonian Times since I grew up on that particular record.

 

4) The good Hansi Kursch from Blind Guardian opens the disc majestically. How did the idea for him to participate in the album come up? As always our favourite wizard is amazing hehehe.

 

Its a long story but I will make it short. Hansi and I have been friends for such a long time. Now, I am part of their biography and I am writing stories for their upcoming books and CDs/LPs. So, we are in contact more or less each day. You can already check out some parts of the upcoming bography that Mark Fosternas and I did on Imaginations live CD and LP. But, yet this is just a small part. The entire story has become such a huge project.

So, since we are friends for such a long time we just wanted to have one song together. Is more about friendship than anything else.

 

 

5) The cover chosen for the album is the illustration by the artist Dobrosav "Bob" Živković for the 1984 Serbian edition of "The Lord of the Rings". I personally love the different international covers made for the master Tolkien's work beyond the big three: Ted Nadsmith, Alan Lee and John Howe. I'm searching the Soviet edition of "The Hobbit" that a friend from Moscow will send me when the situation will be better...

 

Why did you decide to use this cover for your new album?

 

Since I grew up on this book and this particular cover so it was like a dream come true. It was like when Hansi made a decision to sing for me. So, yes the full circle is completed. I was raised on this book and Blind Guardian, and now everything has returned to me Anyway, I really like the cover artwork since it goes well with the title Draconian Age and its perfect old-school work. On the other hand I really dislike all these digital shiny artworks. 

 

 

6) What plans do you have from now on taking into account that all the concerts, festivals and hopes are deposited in 2022?

 

I have no plans at all at this moment. I have to say I am just observing the situation. Well, we will try to use it as much as we can. Perhaps I will try to finish at least my part of Blind Guardian's biography/story. At this moment I am just focusing on At the Edge of Time period.

 

7) I take this opportunity to ask you Marko: how has this pandemic year been in Serbia?

 

Nothing special. I am spending more and more time on Skype with friends of mine just talking, playing DND or doing some interviews.

 

8) Serbia is a very unknown country for my compatriots, as I told you I have been pending for a long time. Any advice on visiting Serbia for an enthusiastic metalhead and traveller like me?

 

There are not so many metalheads in Serbia, I guess the old-guard still has the most people. But, we are now in our 40ties so we are veterans. But, it was different since there were a lot of people between 2000-2005, but most of these bands are vanished now with only one record behind them. I have heard that metal in Serbia was also quite popular during the late 80s, but it was a long time ago. Anyway, Serbia is quite strange and isolated.

 

9) I know it is difficult to address it here in a few lines with so many questions, but what can you tell us about the metal scene in Serbia? (Bands, bars, initiatives, festivals, movement in general... (Always speaking in "normal" circumstances, without a pandemic, of course.)

 

There are no festivals, in terms of metal festivals like in Germany, there are no metal bars, but there are rock ones and I think that's cool since I do not like to listen to metal in bars. It will be too much for me. Most of the people that I am in contact with from the metal world are older, they come from like 20 years ago. Some people left the music but still I met them on the streets and we are talking about how successful Numenor has become because I have made a great delay of around 10 years compared to them all. I like some bands from Serbia but they don't play metal. It was always like that.

 

10) Taking into account that our channel-blog is essentially about literature and Heavy Metal and that it is a fact that Numenor (you just have to see the name hehehe) and you specifically like fantastic literature: what are the works that do you like them more and do you think that every metalhead-lover of fantasy should read? Do you have any fantasy writers in Serbia that you can recommend to us?

 

To be honest there are fantasy writers in Serbia but I have not checked out their stuff, actually the main problem is that I completely lost any interest in fantasy literature like 15 years ago. I've recently tried to read some stuff but after a few pages I gave up. Actually, Hansi recommended me some books, but I completely failed. He is still digging all the fantasy stuff while I really cannot do that anymore.

I am now more or less only into works of Tolkien and Moorcock. Actually if I need to recommend one it will be Robin Hobb. But I love more historical stuff since it is more vivid, more real, but still speaks about something different (romantic?) compared to modern times.

 

11) Thank you very much for your time and I hope we can see you very soon on tour in Spain, festivals and Belgrade (Once the pandemic is over, why not?)

 

Of course I would like to thank you for your nice words and I also do hope to meet you somewhere or in Belgrade.

 

If you want to dedicate a few words to the people of Spain and Latin America who read us, go ahead, this is your moment!

 

Well, since I am quite aware that lots of people from Latin America or Spain really listen to Numenor I would like to send my deepest greetings to them all. I salute you all :) !!!

 

 

Rafa Black Phoenix

 

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INTERVIEW WITH PETER AND ROB OF "MENTALIST"

Today at Black Phoenix Rising We have the pleasure of interviewing Peter and Rob, the members of MENTALIST, the new band of former Blind Guardian drummer Thomen Stauch, Youtuber Rob Lundgren who join forces with Florian Hertel on bass, Kai Stringer and Peter Moog on guitars.

 

Their addictive and great debut album “Freedom of Speech” was released by “Pride and Joy” at the end of this past August.

 

First of all, thank you very much for the interview and congratulations on this great debut album!

 

 

 

1) Mentalist was born in Germany in 2018 by the two guitarists (Peter and Kai). How was the process of creating the band and the search for the other members?

 

Peter: Hello Rafa. The idea to make a band called Mentalist existed several years earlier. So I founded Mentalist at the beginning of 2018 with my long-time friend and exceptional guitarist Kai Stringer. I met Thomen Stauch at a party in 2016. After we asked Thomen, he said yes. Bassist Florian Hertel, who is known from our network, completed the instrumental line-up at the end of 2018. The most difficult task now was a very good singer. We've got a few favorites in mind. Then my singing teacher Rubina (from the band Systopia) came and recommended Rob Lundgren to me. When we contacted Rob in spring 2019, we were able to get him excited about the band and so I'm glad we found our final line-up.

 

Rob: Hi! I can also add, that after the band members were chosen, we have met during song writing and recording to bond and see how the chemistry between us feels. The open-minded yet strong vision in the band is amazing! Things feel very natural within the band. A good blend of dynamic and healthy tension to generate growth. I’m very excited as well to journey together with these great friends and musicians.

 

2) I know that the name chosen "Mentalist" is due to the mascot of the group that appears on the cover. Who is this mysterious character?

 

Peter: The mentalist was suddenly there and enchanted the band. Since then we have been under his spell and have to do what he wants. We don't know whether the mentalist is good or bad. He promised us that he would come to our live concerts every now and then. So maybe we can find out more together with the fans.

 

Rob: I often wake up with memories of mystical chants and dark melodies lurking within my memories. Not sure where it comes from, then I recall a figure whispering… “I sing thru you…” hmm what is going on?

 

 

3) In fact the cover (which is one of the many successes of this debut) has been made by none other than Andreas Marschall, a legend in the world of Heavy Metal illustrations and covers (Blind Guardian, Grave Digger, Kreator, Obituary etc). How did you come up with the idea of ​​having him?

 

Peter:  I originally designed the cover as a line drawing. Contrary to my wish to use my ugly drawing as the final cover, the band recommended to hire Andreas Marschall as the cover artist. The contact came through Thomen and we are very happy that he accepted the order. And I have to admit: his drawing has got a little better ...

 

Rob: I just thought of something. We have a demo version of the album… Peter, let’s use your original drawing as cover when we release that rare find.

 

 

 

4) Both on the cover with “the mentalist” and the protesters with different places, characteristics of the US, Russia and Turkey (with you included among them, great detail!); as in the video clip for "Freedom of Press", there is an important criticism of the role played by the media in the new world order, the abuse of power, the "fake news" and the need to think collectively and critically . What message do you intend to send Mentalist with this first album and as a Metal band in general?

 

Peter: We have several songs with serious topics but also a few songs that are about completely different content. As a band we're a little worried about the democracies of the world. The text for Freedom Of The Press was written in 2017. I was concerned about the rapid rise of populists and dictators in different countries and wrote the text. It simply describes "How do I become a dictator for dummies?" The people in the democracies may have gotten a little tired. Disinformation is shared very quickly on social media. It is important that certain standards are met that we live with in an enlightened, free world.

 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThsdvMzif0E

5) Are you aware that talking about social-protest issues seems to be a space reserved solely and exclusively for Punk and Thrash Metal?

In other words: what do you think of the corset imposed by the press and the public that in the Power Metal you should only talk about dragons, literature, legends, wizards and potions?

 

Rob: Wizards ey… The Mentalist maybe have something he want to say on the 2^nd album regarding his magic spells and potions. I’ll deliver the message.

Peter: Every artist can and should write about topics whatever they want. Personally, I find it difficult to write about swords and dragons. Perhaps I still lack some experience in dragon hunting. Maybe a knight will take me on an excursion and I'll get the "golden spoon" in fighting dragons? As an artist you can also use your responsibility. The fact that we have sometimes serious texts generates positive and negative reactions.

 

 

6) Let's move on to the sound of the band… I and many people defend that the style they practice is “melodic Power Metal”. Do you feel comfortable with this “label?

 

Peter: Everyone sees music from their own perception. I can live with any opinion on it. In heavy metal we have the luxury of having many labels. Most of the bands cross different styles. From my point of view you can find elements of classic Heavy Metal, Melodic Metal, Power Metal, but also Rock and a bit of Prog and Thrash metal at Mentalist.

 

Rob: Here is another label if you get tired of the old ones… “Magic Metal” because our music is “zim-zala-bimbastic-fantastic!!” Call our music whatever you want, I will be here in the meantime playing and singing while you think about what it should be called

 

7) To be more precise, I get the feeling that your sound "is as if Iron Maiden signed the youtuber and singer from Reveal and made a Power Metal album". I really think that guitar work is another of the great strengths of this work and that you should follow this line of bent-harmonized guitars ...

 

Peter: Comparisons with bands like Iron Maiden are a great honor. They have certainly influenced us and we still have a very long way to go and try to develop further. I've always been a huge fan of guitar melodies and also thanks to our excellent second guitarist Kai, guitar melodies play a big role in our music. I am happy that we have such a good singer as Rob. The singing is the part that songwriters and guitarists can only influence indirectly. I was very pleased when I heard Rob's first recordings on songs.

 

Rob: Thanks Peter! And I agree. If people hear Iron Maiden in us then we have a great starting point where to take our music further. This band has many influences and the 2^nd album is already starting to shine in different ways. Oh yea, you have not heard that one yet… You just wait… More great guitar work is coming, these guys are awesome!

 

8) The person in charge of mixing and mastering has been the work of Christian “Moschus” Moos. What has he contributed to the album and how has it helped you to the final result of the album?

 

Rob: Moschus was the first mixer to influence my gear selection during the vox recording in a long time. So I can say he knows a thing or two about it and I cannot be happier with the results

 

Peter: Moschus (www.spacelab-mixing.com ) is a great guy. He let us be ourselves and tried to emphasize our respective strengths. The cooperation was very pleasant

 

 

 

9) We are ending ... How has the damn covid-19 pandemic affected your plans?

 

Peter: Without Covid we would probably be playing a tour now. Instead have already composed the second album. A tour will hopefully take place in the second half of 2021.

 

Rob: The cool thing in this band is that whatever happens we always manage to work around obstacles and happenings, 2020 has been a great teacher in different ways it really showed itself in this weird year.

 

10) Do you have ideas for the second album? Can you reveal which line it will follow?

 

Peter: The songs of the new album are already composed. There are currently nine songs. Composition was a lot of fun and the whole band was involved. There are a few tracks on more serious topics, but also others, including a fun song. From my point of view, we have taken the next step musically and I like the songs very much. The album will be recorded and produced in the next few months.

 

Rob: Next step indeed. I learned a lot during the first album and it opened up new ideas for what we can do for the follow up. The line will be a creative one during the test stages without boundaries. Let’s throw in whatever we want in the cauldron. I fully trust that we know what works and what doesn’t. Crazy ideas are fun to play around with. Mental-is-t-us!! 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fni0IlI1DVY

11) Friends of Mentalist: Thank you very much for your attention, kindness and for your sincere love for music, which fills us so much especially in these difficult times as those we are going through. It is also great to meet you and feel your human qualities, it is also great news and joy for the Heavy Metal world that you have good Rob on vocals and of course, that the great Thomen is riding again after his two infernal drums in a band that has so much to say. It only remains to put an end to this pandemic to see you in live.

If you want to dedicate a few words to the people who follow from Spain and the world in general… Go ahead, this is your moment!

 

Peter: Dear Rafa, thank you for the interview. We are happy to be part of the heavy metal community. There are so many people everywhere who support us so fantastically. Heavy metal makes us happy and we try to do our part with music. We would like to thank everyone very much. Thank you!

 

Rob: Muchas gracias! Best wishes to everyone, stay healthy and move to the music! If you have not heard our tunes yet, check it out as the Mentalist Will Trip You Up!

 

Thanks again and see you soon! Stay metal!

 

Rafa Black Phoenix

 
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